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Falling

Afternoon in late July
I'm falling
Hidden in tall green river grass
Underneath the endless lazy sky
Plovers circle boats as they pass by

And I with all my heavy cares
Logic and my evening prayers
Abandoned all my plans
They wash away like sand

   I am left suspended
   With my castles in the air
   Come tumbling down
   Down to the ground
   There's nothing there

   Just a kingdom made of cards
   Broken promises and hearts
   London Bridge is falling down
   We all fall down

Summer's gone and snow is softly falling
Somehow I'm still living in the past
Gone those happy sunlit golden days
Like the autumn leaves
All blown away

Our time has past
The hour's late
Old Tom rings closed Oxford's gate
The closing of a door
That's barred forever more

(Repeat Chorus)


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Master Buss: HoRNet ThirtyOneMK2, Lurssen Mastering Console (Pop Rock, Warmer)
Lead Vocal: SynthesizerV (Oscar) Greg Wells VoiceCentric (Lead Vocal), Capital Chambers (Chorus Wide Vox)
Harmony: SynthesizerV (Jun, Hayden), Capital Chambers (Chorus Wide Vox)
Female Vocal: SynthesizerV (Weina), Raum
Cello: 1856:Cello, Background PopCountry Ev 085
Ac. Guitar: 2916:Guitar, Acoustic, Rhythm CountryFolk8thsBrent Ev 085 + Holds
12 String Guitar: 1680:Guitar, 12-String Acoustic, Fingerpicking Ev 085
Acoustic Piano: 2999:Piano, Rhythm CountryFolk8thsMike Ev 085 (Holds), Raum (Airy)
Violin 1: 2337:Violin, Background, PopHigh Ev 085, Abbey Roads Plate
Violin 2: 2338:Violin, Background, PopLow Ev 085, Abbey Roads Plate
Viola: 2336:Viola, Background, Pop Ev 085, Abbey Roads Plate
Descant Horn: Audio Imperia Solo
Flute 1&2: Audio Imperia Solo

Yada, Yada
As usual, any comments are welcome! smile

This song is yet another riff on the work of Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (a.ka. Lewis Carroll). "Old Tom" refers to a bell in a tower in Oxford.

Edit: By "riff", I mean it references "All in the golden afternoon..." and "A Boat Beneath a Sunny Sky".

I posted the original version of this song over 10 years ago. I'd always wanted to do this with better vocals, but unfortunately I'd lost all the files.

One of the new features in SynthesizerV is auto-converting vocal tracks, so that got me working on it... after I had thoroughly scoured my hard drive to make sure one more time that the files weren't sitting around somewhere.

I used Spleeter to split the track into vocals and backing. I was able to automatically covert the vocals, but it required a lot of corrections. It was obvious the backing track would have to be rebuilt from scratch.

I used AWC to figure out the chords, and it did an OK job of it. Then I found a thread on Song Master Pro, and the demo version did a much better job figuring out the chords.

The original version of the song was in C, but I adjusted it down to G to make it more singable. I tried out various vocal banks, and Oscar seemed the best fit. This version is a bit less "dreamy" than the original.

As usual, I tried my best to find avoid doing real work by looking for BiaB tracks that would do the heavy lifting. The high string trio worked much better than expected, and anchored by the cello meant I didn't have to do any string parts. There are a few spots where I should probably trim the cello back a bit.

For the guitars, I rendered out a normal track as well as a held strum track. I'd intended to add one more guitar part with light and pretty arpeggios, but ended up deciding the song didn't need it.

I added a descant horn in a few places as well as some flutes in the first section, but left them out of the second section, which is intentionally more bare than the first half.

I worked out a two part harmony for the second half, going to three part in some places, but it didn't seem to fit in well. Parts were too busy and fussy, and didn't seem to support the song. I kept a few of the parts that seemed to work, to give it a bit of change.

It's a rather slow song, and I played around with bumping the tempo from 90 BPM to 95 BPM. It's probably a bit better faster, but I'd have to do a lot of adjusting to really make it work, so I called it mostly done and posted it. wink


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Hi David,

Very nice melody and backing and as always I am in awe of the Synthesizer V vocals.

Sounds like a lot of work went into producing this - Well done.

Best Regards
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SO good, David. Good write, and you fashioned Oscar so well. I really enjoy the backing track --so well put together and softly dynamic. Man, changing it from C down to G is a big jump. I wonder how Oscar would do up there. Maybe Natalie. Never mind. This is perfect as is.


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Very pretty David.

This sounds like a nice song resurrection.

Man, your vocals sound awesome! Dude you have some pipes!!!!

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David,

A lovely opening. Gentle, Full, like a deep breath to "get ready".
The tracks under the first verse are gorgeous. They are what I think of as "cotton candy tracks" - airy, delicate, sweet. Perfect for highlighting that (very impressive) vocal. That takes thought. And talent.
Nice walk-down melody.
A very nice balance on the BIAB strings (cello & violins). Nice (supportive) touch around 3:15...
Nice use of held chords on the acoustic.

The Mix is beautiful. (As is the arrangement)

"And I with all my heavy cares
Logic and my evening prayers
Abandoned all my plans
They wash away like sand"

Oh yeah.

Terrific Listening.

fj

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David, really beautiful song, and the arrangement and production are splendid. Really tasteful dynamic shifts but not showy, which ain't easy. Everything serves the song perfectly. Nice work with the vocalists, too. Always enjoy your detailed explanations. Sounds like a journey, but...you made it! Nicely done.


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Man David, you really show off your talent here. Great sound, wonderful instrumentation, vocals, writing. Everything came together so well. It's a very pretty listen, great work!

Brad

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David...this is a gorgeous piece of music...your mastery of the Synth V voices is evident...the vocals are exquisite...the backing tracks are so professional sounding...but it's your composing skills and arrangement that are so, so evident here! This is marvelous!


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David, you are the master of synth voices! They sound so organic it is scary.
Outstanding work on the arrangement and backing tracks. This must have been a bear to mix.
An outstanding piece of work.
Beautiful, just beautiful.
IMHO your best to date.
Loved it.


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Hi David.

What an arrangement! This is fantastic. You really know your stuff. The intro was awesome and really captured my imagination and segued into a superb production. I loved what you did with Synth V. Until this presentation, I had not heard Oscar, now I've added him to my 'to buy' list. I really enjoyed the song, and I enjoyed all the images that sprang into my mind as I traveled along on your musical journey.

It's always a pleasure listening to your work! You never disappoint smile
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Very impressive. A lot of work on this one, but it sure paid off.

Cheers

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Hi, Nigel.

Originally Posted by NigelSpiers
Very nice melody and backing and as always I am in awe of the Synthesizer V vocals.
Thanks!

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Sounds like a lot of work went into producing this - Well done.
Thanks again!

I appreciate the positive comments! smile


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Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?
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Hi, Marty.

Originally Posted by BabuMusic
SO good, David. Good write, and you fashioned Oscar so well.
Well, Oscar did most of the work. wink

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I really enjoy the backing track --so well put together and softly dynamic.
Thanks! BiaB did most of the heavy lifting. It's mostly just a matter of finding instruments that work well, and using them in the right place.

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Man, changing it from C down to G is a big jump. I wonder how Oscar would do up there. Maybe Natalie. Never mind. This is perfect as is.
Well, I started off in C, and it was too high for most of them. Obviously, you're going to get different vocal qualities in different registers. So while Oscar could sing up there, the emotional quality wouldn't quite be the same.

Thanks for stopping by and your kind words! smile


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Hi, David.

Originally Posted by David Snyder
Very pretty David.
Thanks!

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This sounds like a nice song resurrection.
Yeah, it turned out better than I had any right to expect.

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Man, your vocals sound awesome! Dude you have some pipes!!!!
Oh, I've got some pipes, but they don't sound this good. That's all synthetic voices.

It's good to hear from you - thanks for stopping by! smile


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Hi, floyd jane.

Originally Posted by floyd jane
A lovely opening. Gentle, Full, like a deep breath to "get ready".
To be honest... I sort of lucked into it. I had a listen to the original version, and it had a french horn on it. So I added it to the new version. Just as I was finishing up the mix, I noticed the piano was playing on the introduction. It seemed a bit busy to me, so I pulled it out, and... Ooooh, so much better. That's the thing I keep re-learning: things sound better when the non-essential stuff is taken away.

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The tracks under the first verse are gorgeous. They are what I think of as "cotton candy tracks" - airy, delicate, sweet. Perfect for highlighting that (very impressive) vocal. That takes thought. And talent.
Thanks, but... I can't take too much credit. Panned guitars always sound awesome. And the high string trio works so nicely here - I really lucked out. All I really had to do was automate the faders, and most of the mix was done.

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Nice walk-down melody.
The "falling" melody? wink Thanks!

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A very nice balance on the BIAB strings (cello & violins).
I kept the cello dry and put the a plate reverb on the high strings. It did a good job making the strings sound bigger than they were. I thought I was going to have to put a reverb on the cello to make it match, but I left it dry and to my surprise, it worked. So the high strings are nice and soft, and the cello keeps the its definition.

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Nice (supportive) touch around 3:15...
Thanks for noticing! The horn doesn't show up much, but when it does, it really does sound nice. That was something from the original arrangement I wanted to keep.

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Nice use of held chords on the acoustic.
It's super-convenient that BiaB has an option for rendering out held chords. It's easy to cut and paste in the DAW, and sometimes it's helpful for making small changes to the strums as well.

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The Mix is beautiful. (As is the arrangement)
Well, that made my day. blush

Thanks!


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Hi, Ron.

Originally Posted by DC Ron
David, really beautiful song, and the arrangement and production are splendid. Really tasteful dynamic shifts but not showy, which ain't easy. Everything serves the song perfectly. Nice work with the vocalists, too.
Thanks! smile

I was a discouraged when I found that I'd lost the tracks to the original version, but the alternate tracks did a good job, and it was fun to hear the song with a slightly different "flavor".

I think the cello is the unsung star of the arrangement. The guitars are pretty, but the cello really helps to glue things together.

As for the dynamic shifts... thank goodness for track automation! It's my not-so-secret weapon. wink

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Always enjoy your detailed explanations. Sounds like a journey, but...you made it! Nicely done.
It actually took less time than I expected. I got pretty frustrated copying over the original vocal because of ... issues, but once I got the correct chords worked out, it only took a few days to finish. It was nice not to have to sweat the lyrics for a change! laugh

Thanks for your kind comments - I appreciate them.


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Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?
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Hi, Brad.

Originally Posted by Brad Williams
Great sound, wonderful instrumentation, vocals, writing. Everything came together so well. It's a very pretty listen, great work!
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it! smile


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Hi, Dan.

Originally Posted by firesong
David...this is a gorgeous piece of music...your mastery of the Synth V voices is evident...the vocals are exquisite...the backing tracks are so professional sounding...but it's your composing skills and arrangement that are so, so evident here! This is marvelous!
Thanks! That means a lot, coming from you! blush

But honestly, the SynthV voices don't require nearly as much work as they used. At least, they don't if you pick a genre that fits the voice. wink

Thanks for the kind words!


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Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?
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Hi, Mario.

Originally Posted by MarioD
David, you are the master of synth voices! They sound so organic it is scary.
Thanks! But... the software is doing most of the work.

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Outstanding work on the arrangement and backing tracks.
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This must have been a bear to mix.
Surprisingly, no. There aren't nearly as many tracks on this as the original. And once I'd automated the faders for the guitars, 90% of the mix was done. Everything else was put in relative to the guitars and voices, and there wasn't that much to do.

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An outstanding piece of work.
Beautiful, just beautiful.
IMHO your best to date.
Loved it.
Thanks! blush

But... What am I to think, when my best work to date was something I did ten years ago? wink

Thanks for listening and commenting!


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Hi, Noel.

Originally Posted by Noel96
What an arrangement! This is fantastic. You really know your stuff. The intro was awesome and really captured my imagination and segued into a superb production.
Thanks! I tried my best to keep the elements of the original arrangement. I mentioned before - I think the cello is making me sound better than I actually am.

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I loved what you did with Synth V. Until this presentation, I had not heard Oscar, now I've added him to my 'to buy' list.
Heh. I heard a song someone did with Sheena, and now she's on my "To Buy" list.

When I first got Oscar, I thought his voice was perhaps too soft and quiet. But the "Rock" setting brings out more power, and I was surprised - and pleased - at what an emotional performance I got.

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I really enjoyed the song, and I enjoyed all the images that sprang into my mind as I traveled along on your musical journey.
It's always a pleasure listening to your work! You never disappoint smile
Thanks! I appreciate your kind comments!


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Hi, Mike.

Originally Posted by cubanpete
Very impressive. A lot of work on this one, but it sure paid off.
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it! smile


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Beautiful in every way, lyrics, melody, vocals...
Pure ear candy, I expect to hear this in the next Disney movie cool


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Stunning production.

I love the sound of that opening flute, which serves as a precursor for such a lovely tune.

Once again, the synth voices are magnificent. I would think the voice is real if I didn't know.

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David,

An absolutely beautiful production. The write, mix and vocals are stunning.

"Afternoon in late July
I'm falling
Hidden in tall green river grass
Underneath the endless lazy sky
Plovers circle boats as they pass by"

You had me from the opening...

Bob

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Hi David,

To start with the song itself: Great!
Very good vocals. Oscar's vocals are very pleasant to listen to, and the BG-vocals too
A nice melody and use of instruments. Lovely lyrics.

But the thing that amazed me a lot was that ton of work you had to do to create all this!
And I read you are able to automize some processes. That's great.
I think I once told you that I wanted to do a duet with an AI voice.
I bought some vocals from Emvoice, but, beside a simple vocal melody, I couldn't manage to get me that duet.
That's why I still use humans...

But what you can do is very, very good!

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Hi, B.D.
Originally Posted by B.D.Thomas
Beautiful in every way, lyrics, melody, vocals...
Thanks! smile

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Pure ear candy, I expect to hear this in the next Disney movie cool
Ha! I won't be holding my breath.

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Originally Posted by Ezekiel's Storm
Stunning production.

I love the sound of that opening flute, which serves as a precursor for such a lovely tune.
Thanks! The BiaB cello and strings do most of the heavy lifting here.

I had remembered a comment Nelson Riddle had made in his orchestration book about how flutes add a lovely silvery sheen to french horns... And yes, they do. smile

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Once again, the synth voices are magnificent. I would think the voice is real if I didn't know.
I was impressed by Hayden - the software is getting better and better.

I appreciate you taking the time to stop and comment.


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Hi, Bob.

Originally Posted by rsdean
An absolutely beautiful production. The write, mix and vocals are stunning.
Well, I was heavily influenced by Lewis Caroll's "All in the golden afternoon..." as well as "A Boat Beneath a Sunny Sky". It's hard to go wrong with that as an inspiration. smile

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Hi, Hans.

Originally Posted by Birchwood
To start with the song itself: Great!
Very good vocals. Oscar's vocals are very pleasant to listen to, and the BG-vocals too
A nice melody and use of instruments. Lovely lyrics.
Thanks!

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But the thing that amazed me a lot was that ton of work you had to do to create all this!
I do no more than what I think needs to be done. wink

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And I read you are able to automize some processes. That's great.
By "automate", I mean that I can draw in the volume changes, instead of having to manually move the sliders as the song plays. It's a lot easier that way.


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I think I once told you that I wanted to do a duet with an AI voice.
I bought some vocals from Emvoice, but, beside a simple vocal melody, I couldn't manage to get me that duet.
That's why I still use humans...
Humans are always the best choice... if you can get them!

The nice thing about AI voices is that you can get a high level of control over the vocal... if you want it.

Ironically, that's just the opposite of what programs like Udio offer. Instead of control, you just give your lyrics to the program and hope for the best... Not for me.

Thanks for stopping by and commenting!


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Hi David,
Very well built ballad.
Kudos to you!

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Very convincing David - great production, superb job all round!!

Cheers, Carl

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The lyric itself is a beautiful poem and the first verse’s imagery is lovely.

This is both epic and pure and simple at the same time (if that makes sense).
Everything is smooth and uncomplicated sounding and yet powerful and so full of emotion.
The horns and strings are perfect. It's wrapped in a fine mix.
Amazing what you did to get there!

You know your vocalists so well and always get the best performances out of them.
Most impressive.

Enjoyed it!

J&B

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What a pretty song. These vocals and harmonies are incredible. Beautiful sensitive backtrack and production. First class song...


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Hi, Chris.

Originally Posted by Chris37
Very well built ballad.
Kudos to you!
Thanks! for the kind comment! smile


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Hi, Janice & Bud.

Originally Posted by Janice & Bud
The lyric itself is a beautiful poem and the first verse’s imagery is lovely.
Well, it borrows from poems by Lewis Carrol (Charles Dodgson), so I can't take full credit here.

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This is both epic and pure and simple at the same time (if that makes sense).
Everything is smooth and uncomplicated sounding and yet powerful and so full of emotion.
The horns and strings are perfect. It's wrapped in a fine mix.
Thanks! smile

Although... The BiaB high strings and cello made this version a lot easier, since they did much of the work wink

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Hi, Scott.

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What a pretty song. These vocals and harmonies are incredible. Beautiful sensitive backtrack and production. First class song...
Thanks! laugh


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Man, those vocals sound fabulous! Excellent track overall, David, enjoyed!

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Nicely poetic story with a changing season and falling castles in the air - my favorite subjects wink
Such gentle and beautiful melody and chord progression. The simple arrangement highlights those elements, that is, your songwriting skills. Excellent tune for a musical, I hope you'll be hired to compose music for one smile
Vocals sound great, nice harmonies.

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David,

You've outdone yourself with this production. Masterful use of the vocaloids, but the arrangement as a whole is a star. Has a very Broadway stage feel to me--the show-stopper kind. Soothing and tranquil, but emotional and compelling. Wonderful write to boot. Excellent stuff! Liked it!

My very best to you,

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All the hard work you put into this song really paid off. It's an excellent production all around. A truly beautiful song!


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Hi, Dave.

Originally Posted by BlueAttitude
Man, those vocals sound fabulous! Excellent track overall, David, enjoyed!
Thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to listen, as well as the positive feedback.

I'm glad you enjoyed it. smile


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Hi, Janne.

Originally Posted by jannesan
Nicely poetic story with a changing season and falling castles in the air - my favorite subjects wink
Well, looks like I've found my target audience! wink

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Such gentle and beautiful melody and chord progression. The simple arrangement highlights those elements, that is, your songwriting skills. Excellent tune for a musical, I hope you'll be hired to compose music for one smile
Ha! That's probably one of the most terrifying things I can thing of. blush

I have enough problems writing just one song. But a whole set of them, which have to tell a story and move the narrative forward? That's a whole 'nother set of skills!

Then they'd workshop the play, and come back and say my favorite songs weren't working, and need to be replaced. cry

I've got a friend who's written a handful of musicals. But he'll never see them performed, because who's going to put up the thousands of dollars it would take?

That's one of the nice things about using AI voices and sticking to single songs - I can actually hear someone perform them.

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Vocals sound great, nice harmonies.
Thanks for that as well.


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Hi, Deej.

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You've outdone yourself with this production. Masterful use of the vocaloids, but the arrangement as a whole is a star.
When I re-did the track, I didn't think I'd be able to come close to the original arrangement. But the strings in BiaB turned out to be a great fit for the song, so I lucked out there.

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Has a very Broadway stage feel to me--the show-stopper kind. Soothing and tranquil, but emotional and compelling. Wonderful write to boot. Excellent stuff! Liked it!
That's the best I could ask for! smile

Thanks for your encouragement!


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Originally Posted by WaoBand
All the hard work you put into this song really paid off. It's an excellent production all around. A truly beautiful song!
Thanks! smile


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