Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,728
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,728 |
FallingAfternoon in late July I'm falling Hidden in tall green river grass Underneath the endless lazy sky Plovers circle boats as they pass by
And I with all my heavy cares Logic and my evening prayers Abandoned all my plans They wash away like sand
I am left suspended With my castles in the air Come tumbling down Down to the ground There's nothing there
Just a kingdom made of cards Broken promises and hearts London Bridge is falling down We all fall down
Summer's gone and snow is softly falling Somehow I'm still living in the past Gone those happy sunlit golden days Like the autumn leaves All blown away
Our time has past The hour's late Old Tom rings closed Oxford's gate The closing of a door That's barred forever more
(Repeat Chorus)Instruments/Effects ChainMaster Buss: HoRNet ThirtyOneMK2, Lurssen Mastering Console (Pop Rock, Warmer) Lead Vocal: SynthesizerV (Oscar) Greg Wells VoiceCentric (Lead Vocal), Capital Chambers (Chorus Wide Vox) Harmony: SynthesizerV (Jun, Hayden), Capital Chambers (Chorus Wide Vox) Female Vocal: SynthesizerV (Weina), Raum Cello: 1856:Cello, Background PopCountry Ev 085 Ac. Guitar: 2916:Guitar, Acoustic, Rhythm CountryFolk8thsBrent Ev 085 + Holds 12 String Guitar: 1680:Guitar, 12-String Acoustic, Fingerpicking Ev 085 Acoustic Piano: 2999:Piano, Rhythm CountryFolk8thsMike Ev 085 (Holds), Raum (Airy) Violin 1: 2337:Violin, Background, PopHigh Ev 085, Abbey Roads Plate Violin 2: 2338:Violin, Background, PopLow Ev 085, Abbey Roads Plate Viola: 2336:Viola, Background, Pop Ev 085, Abbey Roads Plate Descant Horn: Audio Imperia Solo Flute 1&2: Audio Imperia Solo Yada, YadaAs usual, any comments are welcome! This song is yet another riff on the work of Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (a.ka. Lewis Carroll). "Old Tom" refers to a bell in a tower in Oxford. Edit: By "riff", I mean it references "All in the golden afternoon..." and "A Boat Beneath a Sunny Sky". I posted the original version of this song over 10 years ago. I'd always wanted to do this with better vocals, but unfortunately I'd lost all the files. One of the new features in SynthesizerV is auto-converting vocal tracks, so that got me working on it... after I had thoroughly scoured my hard drive to make sure one more time that the files weren't sitting around somewhere. I used Spleeter to split the track into vocals and backing. I was able to automatically covert the vocals, but it required a lot of corrections. It was obvious the backing track would have to be rebuilt from scratch. I used AWC to figure out the chords, and it did an OK job of it. Then I found a thread on Song Master Pro, and the demo version did a much better job figuring out the chords. The original version of the song was in C, but I adjusted it down to G to make it more singable. I tried out various vocal banks, and Oscar seemed the best fit. This version is a bit less "dreamy" than the original. As usual, I tried my best to find avoid doing real work by looking for BiaB tracks that would do the heavy lifting. The high string trio worked much better than expected, and anchored by the cello meant I didn't have to do any string parts. There are a few spots where I should probably trim the cello back a bit. For the guitars, I rendered out a normal track as well as a held strum track. I'd intended to add one more guitar part with light and pretty arpeggios, but ended up deciding the song didn't need it. I added a descant horn in a few places as well as some flutes in the first section, but left them out of the second section, which is intentionally more bare than the first half. I worked out a two part harmony for the second half, going to three part in some places, but it didn't seem to fit in well. Parts were too busy and fussy, and didn't seem to support the song. I kept a few of the parts that seemed to work, to give it a bit of change. It's a rather slow song, and I played around with bumping the tempo from 90 BPM to 95 BPM. It's probably a bit better faster, but I'd have to do a lot of adjusting to really make it work, so I called it mostly done and posted it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,573
Expert
|
Expert
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,573 |
Hi David,
Very nice melody and backing and as always I am in awe of the Synthesizer V vocals.
Sounds like a lot of work went into producing this - Well done.
Best Regards Nigel
Nigel Spiers Christchurch, New Zealand info@nzacoustics.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 3,443
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 3,443 |
SO good, David. Good write, and you fashioned Oscar so well. I really enjoy the backing track --so well put together and softly dynamic. Man, changing it from C down to G is a big jump. I wonder how Oscar would do up there. Maybe Natalie. Never mind. This is perfect as is.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,796
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,796 |
Very pretty David. This sounds like a nice song resurrection. Man, your vocals sound awesome! Dude you have some pipes!!!!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,730
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,730 |
David,
A lovely opening. Gentle, Full, like a deep breath to "get ready". The tracks under the first verse are gorgeous. They are what I think of as "cotton candy tracks" - airy, delicate, sweet. Perfect for highlighting that (very impressive) vocal. That takes thought. And talent. Nice walk-down melody. A very nice balance on the BIAB strings (cello & violins). Nice (supportive) touch around 3:15... Nice use of held chords on the acoustic.
The Mix is beautiful. (As is the arrangement)
"And I with all my heavy cares Logic and my evening prayers Abandoned all my plans They wash away like sand"
Oh yeah.
Terrific Listening.
fj
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,195
Expert
|
Expert
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,195 |
David, really beautiful song, and the arrangement and production are splendid. Really tasteful dynamic shifts but not showy, which ain't easy. Everything serves the song perfectly. Nice work with the vocalists, too. Always enjoy your detailed explanations. Sounds like a journey, but...you made it! Nicely done.
DC Ron BiaB Audiophile Presonus Studio One StudioCat DAW dual screen Presonus Faderport 16 Too many guitars (is that a thing?)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Feb 2022
Posts: 856
Expert
|
Expert
Joined: Feb 2022
Posts: 856 |
Man David, you really show off your talent here. Great sound, wonderful instrumentation, vocals, writing. Everything came together so well. It's a very pretty listen, great work!
Brad
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 1,951
Expert
|
Expert
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 1,951 |
David...this is a gorgeous piece of music...your mastery of the Synth V voices is evident...the vocals are exquisite...the backing tracks are so professional sounding...but it's your composing skills and arrangement that are so, so evident here! This is marvelous!
www.soundclick.com/firesongBiaB 2024, Steinberg Cubase Pro 13, Wavelab 11.2, SpetraLayers Pro 10, Audacity, Steinberg UR44 Interface, Yamaha Genos, Roland FP60 and FP10, Windows 10 You are who you are because you do what you do because of what you believe.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,938
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,938 |
David, you are the master of synth voices! They sound so organic it is scary. Outstanding work on the arrangement and backing tracks. This must have been a bear to mix. An outstanding piece of work. Beautiful, just beautiful. IMHO your best to date. Loved it.
I just posted a selfie and all of the responses were get well soon!
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,943
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,943 |
Hi David. What an arrangement! This is fantastic. You really know your stuff. The intro was awesome and really captured my imagination and segued into a superb production. I loved what you did with Synth V. Until this presentation, I had not heard Oscar, now I've added him to my 'to buy' list. I really enjoyed the song, and I enjoyed all the images that sprang into my mind as I traveled along on your musical journey. It's always a pleasure listening to your work! You never disappoint --Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2024
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,037
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,037 |
Very impressive. A lot of work on this one, but it sure paid off.
Cheers
Mike B.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,728
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,728 |
Hi, Nigel. Very nice melody and backing and as always I am in awe of the Synthesizer V vocals. Thanks! Sounds like a lot of work went into producing this - Well done. Thanks again! I appreciate the positive comments!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,728
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,728 |
Hi, Marty. SO good, David. Good write, and you fashioned Oscar so well. Well, Oscar did most of the work. I really enjoy the backing track --so well put together and softly dynamic. Thanks! BiaB did most of the heavy lifting. It's mostly just a matter of finding instruments that work well, and using them in the right place. Man, changing it from C down to G is a big jump. I wonder how Oscar would do up there. Maybe Natalie. Never mind. This is perfect as is. Well, I started off in C, and it was too high for most of them. Obviously, you're going to get different vocal qualities in different registers. So while Oscar could sing up there, the emotional quality wouldn't quite be the same. Thanks for stopping by and your kind words!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,728
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,728 |
Hi, David. Thanks! This sounds like a nice song resurrection. Yeah, it turned out better than I had any right to expect. Man, your vocals sound awesome! Dude you have some pipes!!!! Oh, I've got some pipes, but they don't sound this good. That's all synthetic voices. It's good to hear from you - thanks for stopping by!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,728
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,728 |
Hi, floyd jane. A lovely opening. Gentle, Full, like a deep breath to "get ready". To be honest... I sort of lucked into it. I had a listen to the original version, and it had a french horn on it. So I added it to the new version. Just as I was finishing up the mix, I noticed the piano was playing on the introduction. It seemed a bit busy to me, so I pulled it out, and... Ooooh, so much better. That's the thing I keep re-learning: things sound better when the non-essential stuff is taken away. The tracks under the first verse are gorgeous. They are what I think of as "cotton candy tracks" - airy, delicate, sweet. Perfect for highlighting that (very impressive) vocal. That takes thought. And talent. Thanks, but... I can't take too much credit. Panned guitars always sound awesome. And the high string trio works so nicely here - I really lucked out. All I really had to do was automate the faders, and most of the mix was done. The "falling" melody? Thanks! A very nice balance on the BIAB strings (cello & violins). I kept the cello dry and put the a plate reverb on the high strings. It did a good job making the strings sound bigger than they were. I thought I was going to have to put a reverb on the cello to make it match, but I left it dry and to my surprise, it worked. So the high strings are nice and soft, and the cello keeps the its definition. Nice (supportive) touch around 3:15... Thanks for noticing! The horn doesn't show up much, but when it does, it really does sound nice. That was something from the original arrangement I wanted to keep. Nice use of held chords on the acoustic. It's super-convenient that BiaB has an option for rendering out held chords. It's easy to cut and paste in the DAW, and sometimes it's helpful for making small changes to the strums as well. The Mix is beautiful. (As is the arrangement) Well, that made my day. Thanks!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,728
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,728 |
Hi, Ron. David, really beautiful song, and the arrangement and production are splendid. Really tasteful dynamic shifts but not showy, which ain't easy. Everything serves the song perfectly. Nice work with the vocalists, too. Thanks! I was a discouraged when I found that I'd lost the tracks to the original version, but the alternate tracks did a good job, and it was fun to hear the song with a slightly different "flavor". I think the cello is the unsung star of the arrangement. The guitars are pretty, but the cello really helps to glue things together. As for the dynamic shifts... thank goodness for track automation! It's my not-so-secret weapon. Always enjoy your detailed explanations. Sounds like a journey, but...you made it! Nicely done. It actually took less time than I expected. I got pretty frustrated copying over the original vocal because of ... issues, but once I got the correct chords worked out, it only took a few days to finish. It was nice not to have to sweat the lyrics for a change! Thanks for your kind comments - I appreciate them.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,728
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,728 |
Hi, Brad. Great sound, wonderful instrumentation, vocals, writing. Everything came together so well. It's a very pretty listen, great work! Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,728
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,728 |
Hi, Dan. David...this is a gorgeous piece of music...your mastery of the Synth V voices is evident...the vocals are exquisite...the backing tracks are so professional sounding...but it's your composing skills and arrangement that are so, so evident here! This is marvelous! Thanks! That means a lot, coming from you! But honestly, the SynthV voices don't require nearly as much work as they used. At least, they don't if you pick a genre that fits the voice. Thanks for the kind words!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,728
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,728 |
Hi, Mario. David, you are the master of synth voices! They sound so organic it is scary. Thanks! But... the software is doing most of the work. Outstanding work on the arrangement and backing tracks. This must have been a bear to mix. Surprisingly, no. There aren't nearly as many tracks on this as the original. And once I'd automated the faders for the guitars, 90% of the mix was done. Everything else was put in relative to the guitars and voices, and there wasn't that much to do. An outstanding piece of work. Beautiful, just beautiful. IMHO your best to date. Loved it. Thanks! But... What am I to think, when my best work to date was something I did ten years ago? Thanks for listening and commenting!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,728
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,728 |
Hi, Noel. What an arrangement! This is fantastic. You really know your stuff. The intro was awesome and really captured my imagination and segued into a superb production. Thanks! I tried my best to keep the elements of the original arrangement. I mentioned before - I think the cello is making me sound better than I actually am. I loved what you did with Synth V. Until this presentation, I had not heard Oscar, now I've added him to my 'to buy' list. Heh. I heard a song someone did with Sheena, and now she's on my "To Buy" list. When I first got Oscar, I thought his voice was perhaps too soft and quiet. But the "Rock" setting brings out more power, and I was surprised - and pleased - at what an emotional performance I got. I really enjoyed the song, and I enjoyed all the images that sprang into my mind as I traveled along on your musical journey. It's always a pleasure listening to your work! You never disappoint Thanks! I appreciate your kind comments!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Henry Clarke: Revolutionize Your Band-in-Box® Tracks with Regenerating Function
User Video: Next-Level AI Music Editing with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box®
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 German for Windows is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 für Windows Deutsch ist verfügbar!
Wir waren fleißig und haben über 50 neue Funktionen und eine erstaunliche Sammlung neuer Inhalte hinzugefügt, darunter 222 RealTracks, neue RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Songs with Vocals" Artist Performance Sets, abspielbare RealTracks Set 3, abspielbare RealDrums Set 2, zwei neue Sets von "RealDrums Stems", XPro Styles PAK 6, Xtra Styles PAK 17 und mehr!
Paket | Was ist Neu
Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums66
Topics81,779
Posts737,287
Members38,581
|
Most Online2,537 Jan 19th, 2020
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|