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The trials and tribulations encountered in my mMaj7 thread have inspired me to
create this thread on RealTracks. smile

I would like to learn (if possible) how RealTracks (RT) are manufactured from start to finish.

It is my understanding that RealTracks are created by real musicians. I don’t know whether they must use real instruments exclusively or they can also use syths to create their tracks?

Do these real musicians record their ‘tracks’ in a special studio? If so, do all the musicians record their tracks in the same place? If not, can they record their tracks in any music studio?
Can they record their tracks in a home studio?

Are the musicians given songs or sets of changes to record at various tempi?
Are they asked to record one or two bar tracks, or longer tracks which will then be chopped up into smaller segments?
Are they asked to record the changes in all 12 keys or just a few which will then be ‘pitch bent’ to cover all 12 keys?

Do they record their changes with a click track and nothing else, or with other accompaniment?
What software are they/engineer recording their changes with?

If they are recording jazz tracks, will they be asked to record all of the chords in the standard jazz vocabulary?
Will they be given a complete list of chords to record?
Will they be asked to record each chord in a certain number of chord inversions?

I think this is a good starting point for this thread. smile


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This may answer some of your questions:
https://www.pgmusic.com/usertracks1.htm

My understanding is that the basic process for realtracks shouldn't be too different.


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Originally Posted by Cerio
This may answer some of your questions:
https://www.pgmusic.com/usertracks1.htm

My understanding is that the basic process for realtracks shouldn't be too different.

Thanks Cerio for this, I wasn't familiar with usertracks. I remember hearing about them years ago.
This would definitely answer a number of questions I asked if the process for creating RealTracks is the same/similar.

If the process is the same then the tracks could be recorded in the musician's home studio.
It seems the musicians would be given a set of changes to play.
And further down on the page with the link you gave, it seems that the longer the chart of changes given, the more complex the chords can be in the final RealTrack.

The video you linked to had four keys covered. It seems that was sufficient enough for BIAB to
then add in all the remaining keys.


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With RealTracks some are basic compared to others that may have more material and more keys.
If you want to create UserTracks don't use the 1min UserTrack templates as they are useless.
The more material recorded the better but the bigger the file will be especially if they are stereo tracks.
PG need to make UserTracks be made to allow for Midi UserTracks, this will let you correct any chord easily, you can use a midi synth to create UserTracks, you can also upload the UserTrack as Midi then the users can render them to wav using any VSTi they like.
If you look here Guitar, Acoustic, Nylon Multi Ev8 120
and here Multi Variations UserTracks Feedback ?????
they will give you an idea of what you can do in the 2024 version of Biab.

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Originally Posted by musocity
With RealTracks some are basic compared to others that may have more material and more keys.
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If you look here Guitar, Acoustic, Nylon Multi Ev8 120
and here Multi Variations UserTracks Feedback ?????
they will give you an idea of what you can do in the 2024 version of Biab.

Thanks very much muso, that's very helpful! smile


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Very good! I would really like to learn how to do submissions but I can't, can you help me?

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Hi Marcello,

The web page below is all about how to create User Tracks and contains tutorial videos. User Tracks can be created in either Realband or BIAB. It's also possible to assemble the audio files in a DAW and then move into RB or BIAB.

https://www.pgmusic.com/usertracks1.htm

Below is a video on how to do it in Realband. It's worth watching even if you are planning to use BIAB as the process is pretty much the same in both programs.


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